If I sell Guild Wars Factions... - Guild Wars Forums

benskia · Sep 06, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Will the lucky buyer be able to play the game using the same CD code?

Or will they need my user ID and password? Only, I've forgotten my password and dont have the game installed anymore and cannot try a few of my usual ones out.

Thanks.

Oh, and Hi by the way. This isn't a thread to insult the game by saying I want to sell it. I thought the game was v. good. Just dont have the time anymore.

Ms. Snow · Sep 06, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

I would suggest maybe checking this topic in The Riverside Inn. This should give you a fairly good answer. Also take a look at page 2 about mid way down. Or the cliff notes version. All signs point to no.

G.R.R Martin · Sep 06, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

I think that this quote;
"You may not sell or auction any Guild Wars accounts, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material, nor may you assist others in doing so."
as discussed in several threads across these boards about sums it up nicely,
coming directly from the EULA for GuildWars.

Zakarr · Sep 06, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31

I wonder how Anet will monitor account selling? They really can't tell if it has different owner unless they dig different ISP and maybe country code too from IP-address. Then again the owner might have moved to different country so it is a bit risky to just assume. Maybe more like a morale issue or big chance of scam which would avoid people selling their accounts.

DeanBB · Sep 06, 2006, 10:25 PM // 22:25

You'd be a fool to purchase a used account* though as the original owner could reclaim it from you. Anet will side with the original owner.

* I'd add the exception of "unless it is from a trusted source - brother, friend, etc.

silv3rr · Sep 06, 2006, 10:34 PM // 22:34

It's funny that they don't allow you to sell it (makes perfect sense to me, copyright and all) yet there's a function on the log-in screen that allows you to change E-Mail and such, well I guess what they're saying is, you can give your account away or something...

Either way, selling your account is prohibited by their copyright terms, and since you (the user) clicked "yes, I agree" to their terms, then you can't sell it

Sucks that you don't have time for GW though. You might as well keep it since there's no monthly fees.

ForgeWhelp · Sep 06, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47

On a side note, can one GIVE the used game away? Lets say I had a little brother, which I don't, and after a year of playing and becoming bored can I givethe game to him. Or then to take it to the next step, can I send it to a friend in another state. Or can I use it for barter, for comic books or dragon figurines or what-not? No one is making or losing money on any of these, so is the original person or recieving persons violating the EULA?

Mournblade · Sep 06, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47

people change their email from time to time, THATS why they let you alter it in your user info. =\

vinegrower · Sep 06, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by silv3rr

It's funny that they don't allow you to sell it (makes perfect sense to me, copyright and all) yet there's a function on the log-in screen that allows you to change E-Mail and such, well I guess what they're saying is, you can give your account away or something...

people do have legitamate reasons to change email address and password. In fact, I changed mine two weeks ago for security reasons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForgeBitch

On a side note, can one GIVE the used game away? Lets say I had a little brother, which I don't, and after a year of playing and becoming bored can I givethe game to him. Or then to take it to the next step, can I send it to a friend in another state. Or can I use it for barter, for comic books or dragon figurines or what-not? No one is making or losing money on any of these, so is the original person or recieving persons violating the EULA?

While technically, it is probably against the EULA, if you gave it to someone you know, such as a brother/friend, they would have no idea that you did anything. As long as you don't advertise in game, on a forum, or on EBAY they wont know who has that account or that it traded hands.

Terra Xin · Sep 06, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Quote:

It's funny that they don't allow you to sell it (makes perfect sense to me, copyright and all) yet there's a function on the log-in screen that allows you to change E-Mail and such, well I guess what they're saying is, you can give your account away or something...

thats exactly true, just as long as you're not making money off of something that Anet had worked for.

sykoone · Sep 06, 2006, 11:34 PM // 23:34

The reason Anet doesn't want people trading/selling/giving away their games is a matter of security. If you got rid of your account, then decided a few months later you wanted to play again, an email to support can get you the account back, and the person you gave it to would be out of luck. So better to stop the potential problems before they start. And, of course, they make the money from selling them the account.

Warrior Tanker Il · Sep 07, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinegrower

people do have legitamate reasons to change email address and password. In fact, I changed mine two weeks ago for security reasons.

While technically, it is probably against the EULA, if you gave it to someone you know, such as a brother/friend, they would have no idea that you did anything. As long as you don't advertise in game, on a forum, or on EBAY they wont know who has that account or that it traded hands.

Hahahahahaha

oh ya thats the good stuff wait u werent kidding

dude look at ebay ull see anything gold,items,the game itself u crack me up dude seriously

Age · Sep 07, 2006, 04:13 AM // 04:13

I would imagine if you contacted NCsoft and asked them to delete your account and all information and ask them if you can sell the product as all jurisdictions have consumer protection laws.They may allow it I don't see why not especially if you aren't happy with product and don't forget you just didn't pay for a game you paid shipping and handling as well as taxes on the product.This is really no different than some other RTS games that are on your own HDD.I bought used games before and theres nothing wrong with that.

Eula just really means while you own it and that you won't sell it while still haveing an account.When your account is deleted your are not bound to the EuLa.This means you ended your contract in sense.

majoho · Sep 07, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45

^ as usualy this doesn't apply

There's no laws that gives someone the right to return software that has been used already.

Ole Man Bourbon · Sep 07, 2006, 09:25 AM // 09:25

EULA = product owner's laws rules while they can control you
Law = everything else where the govt can control you
The rest = Kegstands!

2ndName · Sep 07, 2006, 03:31 PM // 15:31

I just think that it is weird how you can't sell your account/game. I mean other games, there are huge markets for used games. What if you want to stop playing Guild Wars and you purchased the original plus 2 expansions? That is already $150 down the drain that you cannot get back because you can't sell your account. ANet already made their money didn't they?

sykoone · Sep 07, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02

For non-online games, once you sell the software to someone else, you no longer have any way to reclaim it. It's gone. But with GW, you can sell your account, then report it stolen, and Anet will yank it back from the person who bought it. The rule about not selling accounts is there to keep this type of behavior down.

SuperFuzz · Sep 07, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48

I contacted support on just this question when I was having problems getting the game to run when I initially installed it and wasn't able to play it. Despite never even successfully starting the game up, they advised that according to the EULA which you accept during installation, you can not sell, trade or give the game to any other party.

Theoretically I guess you still could give it to someone else despite the restriction, however you would have to give the new owner your log on information as well as the game, and unless they posed as you, they would not be able to get any support if they had a problem.

Sep 06, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24	#1
benskia Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2006 Profession: W/E	If I sell Guild Wars Factions... Will the lucky buyer be able to play the game using the same CD code? Or will they need my user ID and password? Only, I've forgotten my password and dont have the game installed anymore and cannot try a few of my usual ones out. Thanks. Oh, and Hi by the way. This isn't a thread to insult the game by saying I want to sell it. I thought the game was v. good. Just dont have the time anymore.

Sep 06, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31	#2
Ms. Snow Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: Rather Die Fighting [RDF] Profession: R/	I would suggest maybe checking this topic in The Riverside Inn. This should give you a fairly good answer. Also take a look at page 2 about mid way down. Or the cliff notes version. All signs point to no.

Sep 06, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33	#3
G.R.R Martin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: W/Mo	I think that this quote; "You may not sell or auction any Guild Wars accounts, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material, nor may you assist others in doing so." as discussed in several threads across these boards about sums it up nicely, coming directly from the EULA for GuildWars.

Sep 06, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31	#4
Zakarr Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland	I wonder how Anet will monitor account selling? They really can't tell if it has different owner unless they dig different ISP and maybe country code too from IP-address. Then again the owner might have moved to different country so it is a bit risky to just assume. Maybe more like a morale issue or big chance of scam which would avoid people selling their accounts.

Sep 06, 2006, 10:25 PM // 22:25	#5
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	You'd be a fool to purchase a used account* though as the original owner could reclaim it from you. Anet will side with the original owner. * I'd add the exception of "unless it is from a trusted source - brother, friend, etc.

Sep 06, 2006, 10:34 PM // 22:34	#6
silv3rr Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006	It's funny that they don't allow you to sell it (makes perfect sense to me, copyright and all) yet there's a function on the log-in screen that allows you to change E-Mail and such, well I guess what they're saying is, you can give your account away or something... Either way, selling your account is prohibited by their copyright terms, and since you (the user) clicked "yes, I agree" to their terms, then you can't sell it Sucks that you don't have time for GW though. You might as well keep it since there's no monthly fees.

Sep 06, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47	#7
ForgeWhelp Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: TGW Profession: N/Mo	On a side note, can one GIVE the used game away? Lets say I had a little brother, which I don't, and after a year of playing and becoming bored can I givethe game to him. Or then to take it to the next step, can I send it to a friend in another state. Or can I use it for barter, for comic books or dragon figurines or what-not? No one is making or losing money on any of these, so is the original person or recieving persons violating the EULA?

Sep 06, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47	#8
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	people change their email from time to time, THATS why they let you alter it in your user info. =\

Sep 06, 2006, 11:34 PM // 23:34	#11
sykoone Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Mystical Chaos Profession: E/	The reason Anet doesn't want people trading/selling/giving away their games is a matter of security. If you got rid of your account, then decided a few months later you wanted to play again, an email to support can get you the account back, and the person you gave it to would be out of luck. So better to stop the potential problems before they start. And, of course, they make the money from selling them the account.

Sep 07, 2006, 04:13 AM // 04:13	#13
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	I would imagine if you contacted NCsoft and asked them to delete your account and all information and ask them if you can sell the product as all jurisdictions have consumer protection laws.They may allow it I don't see why not especially if you aren't happy with product and don't forget you just didn't pay for a game you paid shipping and handling as well as taxes on the product.This is really no different than some other RTS games that are on your own HDD.I bought used games before and theres nothing wrong with that. Eula just really means while you own it and that you won't sell it while still haveing an account.When your account is deleted your are not bound to the EuLa.This means you ended your contract in sense.

Sep 07, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45	#14
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	^ as usualy this doesn't apply There's no laws that gives someone the right to return software that has been used already.

Sep 07, 2006, 09:25 AM // 09:25	#15
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	EULA = product owner's laws rules while they can control you Law = everything else where the govt can control you The rest = Kegstands!

Sep 07, 2006, 03:31 PM // 15:31	#16
2ndName Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2006	I just think that it is weird how you can't sell your account/game. I mean other games, there are huge markets for used games. What if you want to stop playing Guild Wars and you purchased the original plus 2 expansions? That is already $150 down the drain that you cannot get back because you can't sell your account. ANet already made their money didn't they?

Sep 07, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02	#17
sykoone Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Mystical Chaos Profession: E/	For non-online games, once you sell the software to someone else, you no longer have any way to reclaim it. It's gone. But with GW, you can sell your account, then report it stolen, and Anet will yank it back from the person who bought it. The rule about not selling accounts is there to keep this type of behavior down.

Sep 07, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48	#18
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	I contacted support on just this question when I was having problems getting the game to run when I initially installed it and wasn't able to play it. Despite never even successfully starting the game up, they advised that according to the EULA which you accept during installation, you can not sell, trade or give the game to any other party. Theoretically I guess you still could give it to someone else despite the restriction, however you would have to give the new owner your log on information as well as the game, and unless they posed as you, they would not be able to get any support if they had a problem.